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more extreme behaviours at all. You see these pictures of kids.
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when we're talking about bringing business in. You know, this is another example where I don't know how these people...
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has been fairly uniformly disastrous in terms of educational outcomes. And this again goes back to what I was saying earlier about the profit motive and the...
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I'm happy to be corrected on that. Well, I wouldn't be happy to be corrected on that, but I'm
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but I know we've got a few other things to cover in this episode.
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So here to tell us a little bit about his book, welcome back, Dan Hasler.
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Thanks, Cameron. Thanks for having me.
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Fantastic. Well, one other aspect of this publication, though, is all
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really inadequate kind of superficial jump through. I would say the most important first step
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exposure to primary literacy education is fairly limited.
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limited. But it seems as though skills in oracy are something that I don't see coming into the discussion all that much.
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huge proportion of Australian students that come.
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uh... siphon true and work out you know what
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what's the quality stuff and what's not.
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explicitly. But what really, really...
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Okay. So in 1985, you start the Swetans business business section you
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There's that and also, I mean, is there much capital available to entrepreneurs? Is there money available to people with bright ideas?
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There's a vibrant informal economy that is flagged.
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published her paper for the CIS called YJdon.
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for about seven.
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I just don't even think it's an issue. Is it called a straw man when you have a debate about something that isn't actually happening?
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New South Wales. I mean obviously that we will continually improve our practice.
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practices. The other part of the argument that I hear which is really frustrating is that it's put
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is necessary and teaches about the relationship between characters and sounds and blending them together to be able to pronounce words on the
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they've learned something valuable, but if the students don't see a broader purpose in the context of their learning,
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in general, but particularly when it comes to literacy, is the tendency to swing
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a very attractive view to government.
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while there are really effective and desirable practices.
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you know, really come up with your own...
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a system that is increasingly focused on a...
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We're in a political climate, I think.
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advocates for their students. So we're actually planning to use a coaching model to guide that discussion and we'll see where it goes really. John's been working on it.
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headlining event, I guess, of a debate between Kevin Donnelly and David Zinger, two people who are pretty much at the opposite ends of the...
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I just don't understand why everything has to happen the first half of the year.
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Buckingham who I mentioned earlier in this podcast will be there as well. Now I'm.
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going to be speaking down at that event and I haven't actually worked out quite what it will be, aren't it?
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Texchriss Munro, Debra Neteliki.
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and finally at the end of June 28th and 29th of June.
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you know, maybe growing up in a very disadvantaged community.
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Well, I wasn't able to make last year's event, so I'm hoping I will...
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So while we're usually pretty good at wearing out our opinions on our sleeves on this podcast, just be aware that if...